An earth ride is SOOO dry and heavy, it just says "dong", for most situations it's very unmusical...

This cymbal is totally unhammered and unlathed, it has just been pressed into shape. Same like the first Jack de Johnette series rides.

The old Tosco's were a sort of B20, but a variety of B20 that sounds a bit less loud and less rich than that of Ufip, Zildjian, Sabian... usually a bit dry an quiet. But not bad.
They were often also rather fragile.

Mr Confo a écrit :I didn't know my skills were so large...

I knew that from the moment I saw you !

Mr Confo a écrit : Sorry to ask you this, but have you got a contact of someone who could enlarge this hole around Paris ?

Certainly.



YOU !

And a round file of course

Enlarge it, even when it becomes as big as 3cm. Otherwise it will crack further, even if the metal is solid.

Use a round file and do it slow and gentle.

Enlarge the hole with a round file, better a giant hole that cannot crack further than leaving it like this because it will crack further.

Do NOT use a drill.

A superb French jazzdrummersent me this very hollow sounding 20" Istanbul Agop Sig. It was (and still is) only 1477 grams and barked more than anything else you can imagine. I didn't take off any weight but I've totally re-hammered and re-shaped it.


Here's a BEFORE AND AFTERclip

TONY WILLIANS PROTOTYPE http://www.torngat.ca/Cymbales/tw.htm cette cymbale est commercialisée comme suit MARQUE ISTANBUL AGOP SERIE: SIGNATURE MODELE: SE Spéciale Edition Jazz ride It's precisely that model (which I don't think sounds like the real Tony Williams cymbal) that I have just rehammered...

Hammering will automatically reshape the cymbal
But it has been hammered very much into a totally different shape.

A drummer from Finland sent me this 22" Istanbul Agop "Tony Williams" ride. I rehammered it into something that (in my opinion) sounds much more like the real Tony Williams ride from his years with Miles Davis.

BEFORE AND AFTER

What if I say "Paiste 101 is terrible" ......

Into The Light a écrit :whaou o_O terrible!!

Terrible ????

Merci !

(Do you notice that my French is improving ?)

Here's a BEFORE AND AFTER clip of an Istanbul Agop Sig 22".

J. a écrit :apocalyptic sound

Apocalyptic...I'm interested to hear what you mean by that ?